With regard to this impasse on healthcare reform, I've been meaning to look up the 1935 and 1965 votes tallied in the successful passage of the Social Security Act and the Medicare bill, respectively. I have also been curious to learn the level of Republican support for both bills. Here 'tis...
1935 Social Security Act:
House voted 372 for and 33 against with 81 Republicans in tow
Senate voted 77 for and 6 against with 16 Republicans in tow
1965 Medicare bill:
House voted 307 for and 116 against with 70 Republicans in tow
Senate voted 70 for and 24 against with 13 Republicans in tow
Politifact.com had some other interesting historical tidbits, including a mention of Johnson's 2/3 majority in the House following the 1964 elections.
(I wasn't looking to prove or disprove any assertion Howard Dean made last August, which is the focus of this Politifact piece. That's just where I happened to find the numbers I wanted.)
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/28/howard-de...
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More context
And here's the composition by political party of each house during each era...
1935 (73rd Congress):
Senate had 59 Dems, 36 Repubs, 1 other* (composition 61% Dem)
House had 313 Dems, 117 Repubs, 5 other (composition 72% Dem)
* I don't know why only 96 Senate seats were occupied...
1965 (88th Congress):
Senate had 68 Dems, 32 Repubs (composition 68% Dem)
House had 259 Dems, 176 Repubs (composition 60% Dem)*
* It appears, then, that Politifact.com's assertion that Johnson had a "2/3 majority in the House" is slightly overstated...unless I should be looking at numbers for the 89th Congress?
Senate stats here http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm
House stats here http://clerk.house.gov/art_history/house_history/partyDiv.html
More context (corrected)
OK, here's the (corrected) composition by political party of each house during each era...
1935 (73rd Congress):
Senate had 59 Dems, 36 Repubs, 1 other* (composition 61% Dem)
House had 313 Dems, 117 Repubs, 5 other (composition 72% Dem)
* 96 seats because Alaska and Hawaii weren't yet states.
1965 (89th Congress):
Senate had 68 Dems, 32 Repubs (composition 68% Dem)
House had 295 Dems, 140 Repubs (composition 68% Dem)
So the Politifact.com assertion that Johnson enjoyed a 2/3 majority in the House in 1965 is correct.
Also, my 1965 stats as to the Senate are unchanged here because I had previously given you 89th Congress stats for the Senate, but 88th Congress stats for the House.
Clearly, I hadn't drunk enough coffee prior to posting. Apologies.
Senate stats here http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm
House stats here http://clerk.house.gov/art_history/house_history/partyDiv.html
I don't know why only 96
I don't know why only 96 Senate seats were occupied...
Alaska and Hawaii weren't states yet?
(Blush.)
(Blush.)
89th Congress
...and Medicare was, indeed, passed in the 89th Congress, not the 88th.
Please talk among yourselves while I continue trying to get this right. Repost forthcoming...
Realizing there were only 48
Realizing there were only 48 states when I was born makes me feel really old.
Most repubs nowadays
would vote against those bills, as well as the Fair Housing Act and the Voting Rights Act if they were up for a vote now..
The right wing of their own party would force them to..the Rush Limbaughs and Fox News that exist now that didn't exist back then.
My unspoken question
That was really my unspoken question in looking into these stats: Is the cause of this impasse on healthcare reform that Dems hold a smaller majority today than in 1935 and/or 1965, or is the impasse due to something else--like a different brand of Republican legislator today, or a different focus among today's media, or maybe just today's greater influence from lobbyists?
If you looked at those two charts indicating the political party composition in this session's Senate/House, you saw that we do hold smaller majorities in both than we did in 1935 or 1965. Today, Dems comprise just 59% of legislators in both chambers, but...is that the only reason this legislation has stalled?
health care reform
Republicans have slways been emphatically pro-business. Thus, any legislation that will ultimately hurt the bottom line for insurance companies and their CEOs will be vigorously lobbied against by those companies, and our airways will be filled with scare tactics and prophesies of doom. FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Here's a provocative question: Why are health insurance companies exempt from anti-trust laws?